Dave (This is one for our Expert), Since i have not worked in 8.1 (in 7.5.2) there is lot of expectations for v12 (Lot of new features) but when i went for an workshop (5 days) was slightly disappointed.It has some features butnot so much difference (The datamodel has changed and some has become objects,improved performance,sharepoint 1 way integration (Time being only for project object),audit log).The resource management still (Demand ,Allocation (Hard,Soft,Mixed,resource requisitions) it is not clear (may be for me) i thik it needs improvement like project management and alsoin Timesheets (Nothing changed,but only NPIO can enter timesheets).There should be some improvement in reportings (Portlets -- data should be analyzed by the users themselves).The same old Datamart (I hate that Job ).we need page level validations(Not after the data is entered and saved,before that itself),drill down reporting,data analysis@user level.A real integration with ERP.(i know sure that ERP will not give any authorizations).A change needs to published in ERP and get reflected in clarity ????? From 8.1 to v12 there will not much any difference. May be need to wait for next big version Kilimanjaro....... cheers,sundar