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CA Workload Automation AE support on AWS

Linda Williams

Linda WilliamsNov 27, 2017 06:09 PM

  • 1.  CA Workload Automation AE support on AWS

    Posted Nov 23, 2017 01:00 PM

    Here is the HA configuration on AWS EC2 instance.  Please review and let me know if any changes or suggestion.

     

    All EC2 instances with Win 2012 R2

     

    Primary - EC2 instance (8vCPU,32GB) - EEM1, WCC1, AE1 

    Shadow - EC2 instance (8vCPU,32GB)  - EEM2, AE2 

    Tie-breaker - EC2 instance (8vCPU,32GB) - WCC2, AE3 

    Meta-Store - EC2 instances with SQL-Server 2016 Standard Edition - 2vCPU,8GB

        --> AEDB1 

        --> WCCDB, AEDB2

     

    Version details

    AE: r11.3.6 SP6 (in HA with a tie-breaker)
    WCC: r11.4 SP5
    EEM: r12.51 CR04



  • 2.  Re: CA Workload Automation AE support on AWS

    Posted Nov 24, 2017 03:05 AM

    Hello

     

    Here are a few useful links to help you to design the architecture:

     

    AWS ports

    WAAE Best Practices

    Security Best Practices with EEM

    CA WCC Best Practices

     

    In addition, to balance the load on the machines, I would put EEM1 and WCC1 on the Tie-breaker machine and EEM2 with WCC2 on the Shadow machine.

    The tie-breaker scheduler is just going to update its heartbeats in the database and check if the two other schedulers are active. Therefore it won't be very busy

     

    Same for the Shadow scheduler.

     

    Let's see what the others think about it as well

     

    Regards

    Jean Paul



  • 3.  Re: CA Workload Automation AE support on AWS

    Posted Nov 29, 2017 05:58 PM

    Hi Jean Paul - Please review the revised configuration and provide your suggestion.  Thanks Soundar.  



  • 4.  Re: CA Workload Automation AE support on AWS

    Posted Nov 27, 2017 05:13 AM

    Hi Sender ,

     

    Just to inform you .

     

    Database platforms such as SQL Server and others are not currently supported with AWS but will be supported with the AE 11.3.6 SP7 maintenance. 

     

    The support of WAAE with AWS is under certification for 11.3.6 SP7.

     

    Best regards,

     

    Faouzia



  • 5.  Re: CA Workload Automation AE support on AWS

    Posted Nov 27, 2017 06:09 PM

    AWS Linux instances much cheaper...  - just sayin.  



  • 6.  Re: CA Workload Automation AE support on AWS
    Best Answer

    Posted Nov 28, 2017 05:02 AM

    Not really EC2-specific, but I would not recommend installing EEM and WCC on the same host as AE.  The combination of AE, EEM, WCC, Command Sponsor, Common Components, PMUX, PKI etc all on the same host can sometimes tie you in a knot, for example when upgrading one or more things in place. 

     

    I'd also suggest 32GB RAM for AE servers is overkill, escpecially as per Jean-Paul, for the TieBreaker.  Obviously its not stated how many AE instences are being run, but if its multiple ones then I'd spread Primary and Shadow Schedulers across hosts.  Other folks may see this differently.  Good AE performance still depends greatly on fast databse I/O, so I'd be inclined to increase the spec of the SQL Server machine a little (although SQL Server is usually plenty fast), consider scaling back on the spec of the AE servers, and have 2 separate servers hosting EEM and WCC.



  • 7.  Re: CA Workload Automation AE support on AWS

    Posted Nov 29, 2017 05:57 PM

    Hi Antony - Please review the revised configuration and provide your suggestion. Thanks Soundar



  • 8.  Re: CA Workload Automation AE support on AWS

    Posted Nov 30, 2017 10:36 AM

    As per previous post, I would not install AE, EEM and WCC together on the same hosts.  A few reasons: 

    • Possible software incompatibilities with everything together.
    • In place upgrades are difficult or impossible, especially if they require a reboot.
    • Suppose your Primary Scheduler fails and the Shadow takes over.  Its now competing for resources with WCC and EEM.  Your Shadow Scheduler machine should be same as the Primary and deliver the same performance in the event of a Scheduler failover.

     

    Why not have:

    • AEP and AES on medium size hosts
    • AET on a small host
    • EEM1 and EEM22 on medium hosts
    • WCC1 and WCC2 on large hosts

     

    Also - would not recommend installing on the D drive.  You will finish up with some stuff on C no matter what you choose.



  • 9.  Re: CA Workload Automation AE support on AWS

    Posted Nov 30, 2017 10:57 PM

    Hi Antony, 

    Thank you once again, can you clarify on the small medium and large hosts. 

     

    Is the below one looks good?

    Zone1 - EC2 (4vCPU,16GB) - AEP, EEMP

    Zone2 - EC2 (4vCPU,16GB) - AES, EEMS

    Zone 2 - EC2 (4vCPU,8GB)  - AET 

    Zone 1 - EC2 (8vCPU,32GB) - WCCP

    Zone 2 - EC2 (8vCPU,32GB) - WCCS

    Meta-Store - EC2 instances with SQL-Server 2016 Standard Edition - 2vCPU,8GB

    Zone 1 - AEDB instance (primary)

    Zone 2 - AEDBS instance (Shadow), WCCDB

     

    Did you face any issue installing in the non-system drive (D:\)? 

     

    Thanks

    Soundar



  • 10.  Re: CA Workload Automation AE support on AWS

    Posted Nov 28, 2017 02:30 PM

    Hi Jean Paul / Antony / Faouzia / Linda

     

    Thank you all for the suggestion.

     

    Here is some additional information which I missed at first place: 

    1. There will be only one instance and EEM policies are created to separate the tenants based on the job names.

    2. The availability zone also to be mentioned in the EC2 machine, will mention as Zone1, Zone2, etc.,

    3. The primary, shadow and tie-breaker will be updated with suffix like AE1 to AEP (primary) AES (Shadow) AET (Tie-br)

    4. The installation will be on the non-system drive (D:) like D:\CA\ 

     

    Here is the updated configuration:

    Zone1 - EC2 instance (8vCPU,32GB) - AEP

    Zone 2 - EC2 instance (8vCPU,32GB)  - EEMS, WCCS, AES 

    Zone 1 - EC2 instance (8vCPU,32GB) - EEMP, WCCP, AET 

    Meta-Store - EC2 instances with SQL-Server 2016 Standard Edition - 2vCPU,8GB

    Zone 1 - AEDB instance (primary)

    Zone 2 - AEDBS instance (Shadow), WCCDB

     

    Please review the above and let me know if any changes.  

     

    Regarding the Faouzia comments - 

    CA Workload Automation AE Release 11.3.6 and later and CA WCC Release 11.4 and later (including the agents) are supported on the cloud with the following database limitation:
    ➢ Amazon RDS and Microsoft Azure PaaS databases are not supported.

     

    I assume the EC2 instance with SQL-Server will be supported for AE 11.3.6. SP6, please confirm.

     

    Regarding Linda comments - Thanks for the suggestion, currently the plan to use AE windows environment.

     

    Thanks

    Soundar



  • 11.  Re: CA Workload Automation AE support on AWS

    Posted Nov 28, 2017 03:11 PM

    The instance name needs to be the same for Primary, Shadow and Tie Breaker. Not sure if you are implying you’ll setup 3 AutOSys instances in HA or if you are thinking you can have different instance names for the Shadow and Tie-Breaker.



  • 12.  Re: CA Workload Automation AE support on AWS

    Posted Nov 28, 2017 09:50 PM

    Hi daddepalli - I know the instance name should be same.  Thanks for the update. 

    Do you see any comments on the above AWS configuration?



  • 13.  Re: CA Workload Automation AE support on AWS

    Posted Nov 29, 2017 11:35 AM

    I cant comment on the AWS/EC2 configuration as I am no expert on that side, but like Anthony suggested, break out WCC, AutoSys and EEM on separate servers.