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  • 1.  dmcl new copy

    Posted Nov 06, 2018 11:18 AM

    How long does a dmcl new copy take?  I'm in the middle of one right now and it is taking forever.

     

    Mike



  • 2.  Re: dmcl new copy

    Posted Nov 06, 2018 11:26 AM

    The DMCL VARY NEW COPY needs a quiesce point.  So if you have a batch

    job running or a DMLO session, it will wait until they are finished.



  • 3.  Re: dmcl new copy

    Posted Nov 06, 2018 11:27 AM

    Laura,  thanks for the info.  Might be batch running now.

     

    Mike



  • 4.  Re: dmcl new copy

    Posted Nov 06, 2018 12:29 PM

    Will IDMS complete this new copy command once the quiesce point is found if it's been a long time or will the command be dropped by IDMS because waiting too long? 



  • 5.  Re: dmcl new copy

    Posted Nov 06, 2018 12:38 PM

    if you do a DCMT D TASK, you probably have a HELOT task which will

    complete the VARY DMCL.

     

     

    If you go into LOCKMON and do W AR, you will be able to see where the

    locks are.

     

     

    Laura



  • 6.  Re: dmcl new copy

    Posted Nov 06, 2018 12:45 PM

    my session is hung in IDMS



  • 7.  Re: dmcl new copy

    Posted Nov 06, 2018 02:01 PM

    What will happen to the DMCL new copy task if I cancel my IDMS session?  Will IDMS roll it back?  What happens to the task when the CV is cycled?



  • 8.  Re: dmcl new copy

    Posted Nov 06, 2018 02:55 PM

    IDMS DC021108 V10 MULTIPLE SIGNON NOT ALLOWED. USER MBARTA SIGNED ON LTERM LTERM036 

     

    Can this be canceled in IDMS?  IF so how?



  • 9.  Re: dmcl new copy

    Posted Nov 06, 2018 03:06 PM

    Another possibility is a timer task... I ran into this problem last

    week.  Once I disabled the timer task, the VARY DMCL went thru.

     

     

    I don't know if there is a way to cancel the VARY request.  If you

    cancel the HELOT task, it comes back.



  • 10.  Re: dmcl new copy

    Posted Nov 06, 2018 03:20 PM

    Is your question how to cancel the first user session? Or how to cancel the restriction?

     

    If the latter,

    Perhaps you might consider your sysgen specifying

     

    MULTIPLE SIGNONS IS YES

     

     

     

    Chris Hoelscher

    Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services

    Technology Solution Services

    Humana Inc.

    123 East Main Street

    Louisville, KY 40202

    Humana.com

    (502) 476-2538 or 407-7266



  • 11.  Re: dmcl new copy

    Posted Nov 06, 2018 03:28 PM

    Chris,

    I was wondering how to cancel the user assign to LTERM LTERM036 ?



  • 12.  Re: dmcl new copy

    Posted Nov 06, 2018 04:28 PM

    Possibly

     

    VARY LTERM LTERM036 RESOURCES DELETE

     

    Chris Hoelscher

    Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services

    Technology Solution Services

    Humana Inc.

    123 East Main Street

    Louisville, KY 40202

    Humana.com

    (502) 476-2538 or 407-7266



  • 13.  Re: dmcl new copy

    Posted Nov 08, 2018 11:15 AM

    I have also found that if you are making changes that impact buffers used by system tasks, like loader rununits, all the run units need to be terminated be fore the new copy will complete. It goes back to what Laura mentioned like the long running batch job.