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Goodbye Career? Not necessarily!

Discussion created by ca.portal.admin on Oct 5, 2005
Latest reply on Oct 5, 2005 by ca.portal.admin
I am sorry to hear that so many shops are phasing out IDMS. But I think
this thread has turned so gloomy as to give a wrong impression of IDMS
status in general. I would like to present a rosier picture: My site
(State of Iowa) keeps 3 full-time IDMS DBA's very busy. Yes, some of
our smaller databases have migrated to other platforms. But the large
ones keep growing, and continue to do new development, and try new
things such as web-enabling their data. I know there are other sites in
a similar state - could some of you take a moment to chime in here, and
present the other side of the picture?

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Re: Goodbye Career?
"Hello All:

Am I the only one getting all this garbage in E-mail from Bruce?

Also, Lutz's E-mails are barely legible 20's everywhere.

I have read these E-mails with outlook and AOL, I get the same results?

Bill Allen

In a message dated 10/5/2005 11:26:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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THIS IS A TEST are the only 4 word in the email body (Bruce Swist)
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Re: [IDMSVENDOR-L] THIS IS A TEST are the only 4 word in the email body (Bruce Swist)
"I saw only 1 word:

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Chris (if I saw only 1 word instead of 4, does this mean I am at a loss
for words?) Hoelscher

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DISCONNECT a MEMBER Record in a OM SET
"I am sending this note on behalf of one of our developers:

________________________________

From: Turner, Dan [IDR]
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:31 AM
To: Rozeboom, Kay [DAS]
Subject: DISCONNECT a MEMBER Record in a OM SET



Kay,



Can you send the following note to the IDMS Listserv group. I for some
reason am not authorized. Thanks!



Hello All:



We have discovered that when DISCONNECTING a MEMBER record from an OM
SET, that to our surprise you can still OBTAIN the OWNER in the SET.
This is true even if you do a COMMIT right after the DISCONNECT. This is
not was not what we would expect. We were expecting once you DISCONNECT
a member record in an OM SET, that you could not OBTAIN what was the
OWNER.



For some reason this is a problem for our developers. I'm not sure why,
but it is. I conducted this testing Using the DMLO tool.



We had another shop test one of their OM sets, and to their surprise
they too could OBTAIN the OWNER right after the DISCONNECT.



If you finish the program session, and then start a new one, and get
current on what was the MEMBER record, then at that point you can no
longer OBTAIN the OWNER in the SET. This is what is expected.



Any input on this would be appreciated.



Thanks!





Dan Turner, Database Design

Iowa Department of Revenue

515.281.7061 or 515.242.5915



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Problem with the List?
"To the list Managers:

When Bruce E-mail's me directly from the same E-mail address that he send's
to the list there is no problems? I can read it fine, but, when it comes from
the list it is garbled, can someone look at my settings, my id is ARCHCONB,
my E-mail address is ARCHCONB@AOL.COM (mailTo:ARCHCONB@AOL.COM) .

Lutz, can you E-mail me directly to see if I can read yours as well?

Bill Allen
ARCH Consulting Associates, Ltd.

In a message dated 10/5/2005 12:07:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
bruce.swist@NAVY.MIL writes:

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Web-enabling IDMS data
"I have received some questions about how we have web-enabled IDMS data
at our site, so I thought I would share this with the list. We have
done it several ways here:
1) Screen-scraping software. This is considered the least desirable
because you have to update it whenever your ADS or CICS screens change.
But it requires no IDMS knowledge on the web progammer's part. There
are various products available that do this.
2) IDMS server. This is an ODBC driver for IDMS. It provides direct
access to live IDMS data. I like it best because any ASPor .NET
programmer can do the web programming portion with no additional
training. It does require installing (and buying) the IDMS SQL option.
3) MQSeries. This also provides direct access to live IDMS data. CICS
comes with an MQSeries interface, so we write CICS/IDMS/MQSeries
programs. If you don't use CICS, there are products available that
provide an MQSeries interface to IDMS. This option has the steepest
learning curve for both the web programmer and the IDMS programmer.
4) Download data to a web server. This option is retrieval-only, and
the data gets stale between downloads. The advantage is that you don't
have to ensure an active connection between the web server and the
mainframe at all times, like you do with the other options.

Kay Rozeboom
State of Iowa
Information Technology Enterprise
Department of Administrative Services
Telephone: 515.281.6139 Fax: 515.281.6137
Email: Kay.Rozeboom@Iowa.Gov

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Re: DISCONNECT a MEMBER Record in a OM SET
"If I remember correctly, COMMIT does NOT clear currencies, so the
current dbkeys are still in memory and addressable.

Scott J. Brady,
Holland America.

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