ca.portal.admin

Re: Is this difficult?

Discussion created by ca.portal.admin on Mar 31, 2008
It's all in the money. Off shore work cost's next to nothing. The same
problem applies to retraining. Dick Richard Pierce (617) 973-8911
richard.pierce@state.ma.us -----Original Message----- From: IDMS Public
Discussion Forum [mailTo:IDMS-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM] On Behalf Of
Margaret Sliming Sent: Monday March 31, 2008 10:28 AM To:
IDMS-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM Subject: Re: Is this difficult? I think there
are lots of us around but as Lutz mentioned, IDMS has dried up in most
of the more desirable and/or affordable places to live. If companies
would allow telecommuting they would never have a problem getting
people. It fascinates me that they have no problem shipping jobs off to
India and China but don't trust their own citizens to work remotely.
-----Original Message----- From: Joan Planta
[mailTo:joanplanta@YAHOO.COM] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 03:27 PM
To: IDMS-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM Subject: Re: Is this difficult? Did you
find the IDMS Programmers? I have worked with IDMS since 1985 as well as
DB2. Thanks, Joan --- ""Petzold, Lutz"" wrote: > It depends.
Theoretically, there are a LOT of > IDMS/ADSO programmers around. > More
then C+ and Java I'd say. And they switch jobs > less often too I think.
-----Original Message----- > From: Joe Cates
[mailTo:Joe_Cates@FC.MCPS.K12.MD.US] > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003
1:26 PM > To: IDMS-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM > Subject: Is this difficult? >
Hello IDMSers. Just to satisfy my curiosity, how > difficult do you
think it > would be to recruit IDMS capable programmers, > analysts etc?
We have ongoing > debates here regarding the impossibility of doing >
this. Is it really so in > the real world? You can email me directly.
Thanks. > > Joe S Cates, C.C.P. > Database Analyst > Office of Global
Access Technology > Montgomery County Public Schools > Rockville, MD
20850 > email: Joe_Cates@fc.mcps.k12.md.us > > This e-mail may contain
confidential or privileged > information. If you > think you have
received this e-mail in error, please > advise the sender by > reply
e-mail and then delete this e-mail > immediately. Thank you. Aetna
"
IDMS Public Discussion Forum
IDMS-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM
SMTP
IDMS-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM
IDMS-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM
SMTP








Normal

Normal
Re: Is this difficult?
"I don't begrudge offshore workers getting jobs to feed their families.
So let's reason together and don't hit me over the head until you read
the rest.

There are jobs Americans simply do not want anymore - everyone wants to
get into the ""newer"" technologies. This is why CA, in its commitment to
IDMS, is training people in India (I did hear this from a reliable
source in Level 2 a while back). Does any one think that the IDMS
developers will be here forever? Some have already retired. Could L2
start retiring someday? Of course. After all, as I heard my manager say,
""You can't find any IDMS person (DBA or programmer) anymore under the
age of 50.""

So CA has no other choice but to farm these jobs offshore where workers
are willing to be trained and support products such as IDMS. On the flip
side I'm sure the cheap cost of paying the employees is a major factor
and does affect the existing crop of IDMS players like other
outsourcing. But...how long does it take for an offshore worker to gain
expertise in IDMS? The answer is through experience and no one can top
the current CA IDMS developers, Level1 or Level2 people or the IDMS user
community when it comes to that.

Just my opinion.

Outcomes