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Re:Re: Is this difficult?

Discussion created by ca.portal.admin on Mar 31, 2008
It's all in the money. Off shore work cost's next to nothing. The same
problem applies to retraining. Dick Richard Pierce (617) 973-8911
richard.pierce@state.ma.us -----Original Message----- From: IDMS Public
Discussion Forum [mailTo:IDMS-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM] On Behalf Of
Margaret Sliming Sent: Monday March 31, 2008 10:28 AM To:
IDMS-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM Subject: Re: Is this difficult? I think there
are lots of us around but as Lutz mentioned, IDMS has dried up in most
of the more desirable and/or affordable places to live. If companies
would allow telecommuting they would never have a problem getting
people. It fascinates me that they have no problem shipping jobs off to
India and China but don't trust their own citizens to work remotely.
-----Original Message----- From: Joan Planta
[mailTo:joanplanta@YAHOO.COM] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 03:27 PM
To: IDMS-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM Subject: Re: Is this difficult? Did you
find the IDMS Programmers? I have worked with IDMS since 1985 as well as
DB2. Thanks, Joan --- ""Petzold, Lutz"" wrote: > It depends.
Theoretically, there are a LOT of > IDMS/ADSO programmers around. > More
then C+ and Java I'd say. And they switch jobs > less often too I think.
-----Original Message----- > From: Joe Cates
[mailTo:Joe_Cates@FC.MCPS.K12.MD.US] > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003
1:26 PM > To: IDMS-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM > Subject: Is this difficult? >
Hello IDMSers. Just to satisfy my curiosity, how > difficult do you
think it > would be to recruit IDMS capable programmers, > analysts etc?
We have ongoing > debates here regarding the impossibility of doing >
this. Is it really so in > the real world? You can email me directly.
Thanks. > > Joe S Cates, C.C.P. > Database Analyst > Office of Global
Access Technology > Montgomery County Public Schools > Rockville, MD
20850 > email: Joe_Cates@fc.mcps.k12.md.us > > This e-mail may contain
confidential or privileged > information. If you > think you have
received this e-mail in error, please > advise the sender by > reply
e-mail and then delete this e-mail > immediately. Thank you. Aetna
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Re: Is this difficult?
"Gentlemen, let's look at the Romans. What was their key to success?
Not personal initiative, the other side had that too. Organization.

By the way, the first year of my computer science class, in 1977, had an
over 50% drop out rate. Some people just didn't want to work with
computers. Didn't care for it, didn't get it, didn't want it, no matter
what it paid. Same went for the physics classes I believe. Same
phenomenon today. Kids dont go into the natural sciences, or computer
sciences, in droves. But when you graduate from your local college with
a degree in computer science, will you get a job at Oracle where you can
learn and grow? No.

Lutz Petzold
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Re: Is this difficult?
"How old are you Vince? Probably has a bearing on your response.

Dick
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Sent: Tue Apr 01 15:33:40 2008
Subject: Re: Is this difficult?

You validate my opinion. You experienced a reduction in demand for your
specific skill, recognized it and switched to a field that could provide
you with an income. Bravo! You were able to make the switch because of
your basic education. And you didn't sit on your backside and say ""Woe
is me. Some one owes me a job because ... ""

The first time I was outsourced, I was terrified of not having a job. It
has since happened to me 2 more times. Recovering quickly once could be
called lucky. Quick recovery 3 times becomes a rule. Now the prospect
of out sourcing does not bother me, other than being a short term
inconvenience. I will have a job tomorrow, and next year. Probably, as
today, with another outsourcer.

Vince Jensen

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