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Re:Re: Is this difficult?

Discussion created by ca.portal.admin on Mar 31, 2008
It's all in the money. Off shore work cost's next to nothing. The same
problem applies to retraining. Dick Richard Pierce (617) 973-8911
richard.pierce@state.ma.us -----Original Message----- From: IDMS Public
Discussion Forum [mailTo:IDMS-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM] On Behalf Of
Margaret Sliming Sent: Monday March 31, 2008 10:28 AM To:
IDMS-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM Subject: Re: Is this difficult? I think there
are lots of us around but as Lutz mentioned, IDMS has dried up in most
of the more desirable and/or affordable places to live. If companies
would allow telecommuting they would never have a problem getting
people. It fascinates me that they have no problem shipping jobs off to
India and China but don't trust their own citizens to work remotely.
-----Original Message----- From: Joan Planta
[mailTo:joanplanta@YAHOO.COM] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 03:27 PM
To: IDMS-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM Subject: Re: Is this difficult? Did you
find the IDMS Programmers? I have worked with IDMS since 1985 as well as
DB2. Thanks, Joan --- ""Petzold, Lutz"" wrote: > It depends.
Theoretically, there are a LOT of > IDMS/ADSO programmers around. > More
then C+ and Java I'd say. And they switch jobs > less often too I think.
-----Original Message----- > From: Joe Cates
[mailTo:Joe_Cates@FC.MCPS.K12.MD.US] > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003
1:26 PM > To: IDMS-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM > Subject: Is this difficult? >
Hello IDMSers. Just to satisfy my curiosity, how > difficult do you
think it > would be to recruit IDMS capable programmers, > analysts etc?
We have ongoing > debates here regarding the impossibility of doing >
this. Is it really so in > the real world? You can email me directly.
Thanks. > > Joe S Cates, C.C.P. > Database Analyst > Office of Global
Access Technology > Montgomery County Public Schools > Rockville, MD
20850 > email: Joe_Cates@fc.mcps.k12.md.us > > This e-mail may contain
confidential or privileged > information. If you > think you have
received this e-mail in error, please > advise the sender by > reply
e-mail and then delete this e-mail > immediately. Thank you. Aetna
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Re: Is this difficult?
"I think Lutz Petzold's point is most relevant. To para-phrase ""...But
when you graduate from your local college with a degree in computer
science, will you get a job at Oracle where you can
learn and grow? No."" You might get you a job where I work, but you will
have 10 - 20 colleagues, equally well-trained, educated and motivated,
all of whom grew up and attended university in China or India.

This is a great deal for my employer. It is not a great deal for
Americans competing for those same jobs. I see this as a labor vs.
capital (i.e. employer) conflict, and the employer has a distinct
advantage here in the US (don't know about Canada, Europe, Singapore,
etc..., in this regard), both in terms of laws AND in the Public Affairs
(propaganda) arena. Letting 'capital' have it's way has a nasty habit
of producing big problems in the USA. Too much 'good for the few, bad
for the many'.

We all got to where we are today through a pipeline from high-school,
university/technical school and experience and then continuing
education. I do not believe that pipeline functions very well today,
unless you're willing to move internationally - often highly
impractical.

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