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Re:Re: [IDMSVENDOR-L] Going to the darkside!

Discussion created by ca.portal.admin on Jul 18, 2008
I just came out of Infor Global Solutions in the latest round of layoffs
last month. They have the support for all of the CAS product line now,
since
they purchased SSA Global about 2 years ago. At last count there were
about
15-20 sites worldwide that are still running CAS. Some may never get
away
from it, since the relational databases have such a hard time with some
of
the BOM structures that IDMS and CAS support so well.

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Doneker, John W (US SSA) <
John.Doneker@baesystems.com> wrote:
We were still on Cas 1.0 and the old Cullinet financial system - CFS.

I do not mean to belittle that site you're talking about but
apparently
the planning here by management was well conceived.

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Subject: Re: [IDMSVENDOR-L] Going to the darkside!

just curious - what flavor and release of CAS were you on? i know of
at
least one site that threw lots of $$$ trying to get off of CAS 2.1R
<?>
and
gave up

Chris Hoelscher
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Humana Inc
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Re: Going to the darkside!
"The firm I was with for 13 years is one of these. They modified CAS so much in the 70s-80s-90s there was no reason to pay for support - every thing was fine until trans-century came about -they had a unique take on it.

Since the days of the week and the day of the year matches up every 20 some years (Jan 1 1940, Jan 1 1964 , Jan 1 1988 and Jan 1 2012 are all Mondays or something like it) the actual formula escapes me.


Instend of touching MRP they subtracted 20 something x2, why 2 ? - I have no clue, from the input and added it back at output. I am sure other shops did other strange things.

Bob
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From: Doneker, John W (US SSA)<mailTo:John.Doneker@BAESYSTEMS.COM>
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Subject: Re: Going to the darkside!


I was thinking about this. These 15 - 20 CAS sites...there could
possibly be more. Prior to the Oracle conversion we had dropped our
maintenance license for years. The CAS software was modified so much
they could not upgrade so the need for paying maintenance was unfounded.
It just expired. There could be many more like that also...paying for
IDMS but letting CAS go. =20

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On Behalf Of Jerry Roberson
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 3:53 PM
To: IDMS-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM<mailTo:IDMS-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM>
Subject: Re: [IDMSVENDOR-L] Going to the darkside!

I just came out of Infor Global Solutions in the latest round of layoffs
last month. They have the support for all of the CAS product line now,
since
they purchased SSA Global about 2 years ago. At last count there were
about
15-20 sites worldwide that are still running CAS. Some may never get
away
from it, since the relational databases have such a hard time with some
of
the BOM structures that IDMS and CAS support so well.

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Doneker, John W (US SSA) <
John.Doneker@baesystems.com<mailTo:John.Doneker@baesystems.com>> wrote:

> We were still on Cas 1.0 and the old Cullinet financial system - CFS.
>
> I do not mean to belittle that site you're talking about but
apparently
> the planning here by management was well conceived.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IDMS Public Discussion Forum [mailTo:IDMS-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM]
> On Behalf Of Chris Hoelscher
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 3:31 PM
> To: IDMS-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM<mailTo:IDMS-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM>
> Subject: Re: [IDMSVENDOR-L] Going to the darkside!
>
> just curious - what flavor and release of CAS were you on? i know of
at
> least one site that threw lots of $$$ trying to get off of CAS 2.1R
<?>
> and
> gave up
>
> Chris Hoelscher
> Senior IDMS & DB2 Database Administrator
> Humana Inc
> 502-476-2538
> choelscher@humana.com<mailTo:choelscher@humana.com>
>
>
>
>
> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity
to
> which it is addressed and may contain CONFIDENTIAL material. If you
> receive this material/information in error, please contact the sender
> and delete or destroy the material/information.
>



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"I have heard of one site that claimed they couldn't upgrade to IDMS 16=2E0=
=0D=0Abecause of CAS 1=2E3=2E Does anyone know the technical details why C=
AS=0D=0Awould interfere with an IDMS upgrade?=0D=0A=0D=0ALutz Petzold=0D=0A=
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"I have heard of one site that claimed they couldn't upgrade to IDMS 16.0
because of CAS 1.3. Does anyone know the technical details why CAS
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FTP Upload Problems
"Has anyone else run into FTP upload problems transmitting files to the
CA support site this week ?

I have not been able to get a dump to transmit since yesterday.


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Re: Going to the darkside!
"Could be CAS/Data... There was a problem some time ago and I thought they
had it fixed, but who knows? Anyone out there on 16.0 using CAS/Data?

Linda J. Casey, PMP
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