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Re:Re: [IDMSVENDOR-L] Strange thing in IDMS 17.0 SP1 DCLOG

  • 1.  Re:Re: [IDMSVENDOR-L] Strange thing in IDMS 17.0 SP1 DCLOG

    Posted May 05, 2010 11:55 AM
    are you checking for ""both"" log full msgs?

    DC050001
    DC050004

    i believe DC050004 is spit out when the log is 100% full - this message is
    NOT checked by vanilla WTOexit

    i have seen a log fill up so quicly due to a dump that the DC050001 is
    never issues - only the DC050004 - and the vamilla wtoexit would never
    catch it




    Chris Hoelscher
    IDMS/DB2 Database Architect
    Humana Inc
    502-476-2538
    choelscher@humana.com

    you only need to test the programs that you want to work correctly






    From:
    ""William M. Allen, Jr."" <archcons@ARCHCONS.COM>
    To:
    IDMSVENDOR-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM
    Date:
    05/05/2010 04:29 PM
    Subject:
    [IDMSVENDOR-L] Strange thing in IDMS 17.0 SP1 DCLOG
    Sent by:
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    Hello All:



    I just upgraded another Client to 17.0 SP1 and we are having a few issues;
    one was with TSSMAI from Top Secret and there is a fix for that from CA.



    The next issue is that the CV is not spitting out the log % full message
    so
    what is happening is that the log is filling up and the offload job is
    never
    getting submitted?



    The exit is fine because it is submitting the Journal archive just fine.



    The Messages for the Journal and log have the same destination and OS
    route
    codes, I have checked all of that. I have even restored and re-received
    and
    applied the startup user modification with no change.



    The Log was formatted before we brought the CV up using IDMS 17.0 SP1
    software.



    We also had an issue with easy test causing system module program checks
    near RHDCUXIT with all the tool kit exits installed. We have pulled all
    the
    exits from RHDCUXIT and easy test works fine. We still have to work with
    the
    vendors on a resolution for this one.



    The last issue is the submission of the log archive, I know the exit is
    working and the log has filled many times, but the IDMS Region is simply
    not
    issuing the log % full message?



    And here is another strange thing when we view the log with LOGD we see
    these system module program checks from four days ago and the log has
    filled
    at least five times since then because we have to archive it manually.



    So my question is how does IDMS issue that log message, is there some sort
    of header record in the log that might be corrupted?



    We can always format the log but the Client is reluctant to do that
    without
    an explanation of why this is happening.



    William M. Allen, Jr.

    ARCH Consulting Associates, Ltd.

    (704) 641-0296



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    Re: new ca support application
    "well, nobody asked me .....

    (and now that they have, they may be sorry they did .....)





    I know engineers, they love to change things!



    Chris Hoelscher
    IDMS/DB2 Database Architect
    Humana Inc
    502-476-2538
    choelscher@humana.com

    you only need to test the programs that you want to work correctly






    From:
    ""Timm, Edward"" <Edward.Timm@SALLIEMAE.COM>
    To:
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    Date:
    05/07/2010 08:28 AM
    Subject:
    Re: [IDMSVENDOR-L] new ca support application
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    Does CA Support Center even attempt to get feedback before implementing
    the=
    se kind of changes. I cannot image any DBA that would use this feature be
    =
    happy with the implementation of this.




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    Normal

    Normal
    Re: [IDMSVENDOR-L] new ca support application
    "well, nobody asked me .....

    (and now that they have, they may be sorry they did .....)





    I know engineers, they love to change things!



    Chris Hoelscher
    IDMS/DB2 Database Architect
    Humana Inc
    502-476-2538
    choelscher@humana.com

    you only need to test the programs that you want to work correctly






    From:
    ""Timm, Edward"" <Edward.Timm@SALLIEMAE.COM>
    To:
    IDMSVENDOR-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM
    Date:
    05/07/2010 08:28 AM
    Subject:
    Re: [IDMSVENDOR-L] new ca support application
    Sent by:
    IDMS 3rd-party providers forum <IDMSVENDOR-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM>



    Does CA Support Center even attempt to get feedback before implementing
    the=
    se kind of changes. I cannot image any DBA that would use this feature be
    =
    happy with the implementation of this.




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    Re: Strange thing in IDMS 17.0 SP1 DCLOG
    "rather than do a blanket format - why not clone it (for future use) and
    format the prime dataset .....

    Chris Hoelscher
    IDMS/DB2 Database Architect
    Humana Inc
    502-476-2538
    choelscher@humana.com

    you only need to test the programs that you want to work correctly






    From:
    ""William M. Allen, Jr."" <archcons@BELLSOUTH.NET>
    To:
    IDMSVENDOR-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM
    Date:
    05/07/2010 09:14 AM
    Subject:
    Re: [IDMSVENDOR-L] Strange thing in IDMS 17.0 SP1 DCLOG
    Sent by:
    IDMS 3rd-party providers forum <IDMSVENDOR-L@LISTSERV.IUASSN.COM>



    My WTOEXIT is hard included in the link edit of the startup. I have an
    SMP/E
    user modification that performs this function that I put together a long
    time ago and it has worked on every release of IDMS including many 17.0
    SP1
    central versions with no problems whatsoever.

    And at this site the WTOEXIT is getting executed and it is submitting the
    journal jobs correctly as expected.

    The problem is NOT with the WTOEXIT, the problem is that the CV is not
    spitting out the log message showing what percentage full it is for the
    WTOEXIT to intercept.

    In my original E-mail I stated that we had all the tool kit exits and when
    using a third party product called Easy Test we received system module
    program checks near RHDCUXIT. As many of us know these exits all have to
    do
    with task analyzer and Master key so I personally believe that when we had
    these issues the DCLOG somehow got corrupted and whatever the CV is
    looking
    at to issue these messages is corrupted and that is why we are not getting
    the messages.

    The client does not want to format the log until CA has a chance to
    trouble
    shoot this issue.

    William M. Allen, Jr.
    ARCH Consulting Associates, Ltd.
    (704) 641-0296