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wily for sap

Question asked by qingwang on Dec 2, 2011
Latest reply on May 12, 2015 by Hiko_Davis

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Hi,

I am use wily to monitor sap. From SAP Support, I have got the whole wily including EM, Workstation, Agent. And their latest version is v8.2.3. Could anybody have the exprience about wily for sap? If possible, kindly give me some docs for wily-sap.

In addition, do anybody have the metrics reference about wily-sap? Should we be concerned about what requirement for the wily-sap based on IT Operation management?

Thanks & Regards,
Tiezheng

Hiko_Davis

Apr 22, 2015 4:35 PM

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1) Is SAP APM is Agent based or Agentless/Remote monitoring. ? Agent

2) Could you please give background how APM monitors SAP system. ? SAP has created what is called the SMDAgent that is custom designed to gather metrics from SAP landscape.

3) How differently SAP Agents collect metric data from Java/.Net Agents? What all different metrics SAP agent will collect from Java/.Net Agents.? SED allows you create custom PBDs and other instrumentation just like regular APM. This is not possible if you only use RTV.

4) What all SAP Modules(like ABAP, Security, HANA, etc..) we can monitor using CA APM, do we have any limitations in modules ? ABAP monitoring can be purchased directly from CA, which allows you to monitor the T-codes. We do not currently support monitoring for HANA or other SAP modules. If this is something you're interested in, please contact your CA account manager or pre-sales rep about engaging CA Services.

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SergioMorales

Dec 2, 2011 3:40 AM

Hi
The latest vesion of Introscope SAP is v9. In regards to the the SAP documentation, in addition to the tandard Introscope documentaiton you should be able to download the one specific for SAP, which is the Webview userguide.
Please find attached a copy.

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Sergio

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TieZheng.Sun @ SergioMorales on Dec 2, 2011 4:51 AM

From SAP Note 797147, I find the wily download link from service.sap.com. However, I can only find "Latest available release on Service Marketplace is Introscope 8.2". And this note was published at 02.05.2011. So how to get wily for sap v9?

And from CA wily Support, can i get some reference metric for sap?

As I know little for sap, but i still have to do monitor sap. So i am confused with this.

Thanks & Regards,
Tiezheng

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dShashiKrishna @ SergioMorales on Mar 27, 2015 12:07 PM

Hi Sergio,

Greetings!

Hope you are good.

Here APM we are almost done very well where it included your support and added value.

We knew that CA APM is bundled with SAP.

Now we required small info/data about APM for SAP.

1) Is SAP APM is Agent based or Agentless/Remote monitoring. ?

2) Could you please give background how APM monitors SAP system. ?

3) How differently SAP Agents collect metric data from Java/.Net Agents? What all different metrics SAP agent will collect from Java/.Net Agents.?

4) What all SAP Modules(like ABAP, Security, HANA, etc..) we can monitor using CA APM, do we have any limitations in modules ?

I have searched in APM bookshelf but unfortunately i could not found any.

And also please share some documents and CA guides to know about SAP APM.

Many Thanks in Advance.

Regards,

ShashiKrishna.

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FrancoisWalter @ dShashiKrishna on Mar 30, 2015 2:14 PM

I started some work on monitoring SAP with Introscope.

SAP is providing an embedded Introscope (EM+agents). It is a standalone EM. I tried to connect it to my MOM but my MOM version was greater than the one delivered with SAP. The current version delivered with SAP is 9.1.0.1.

All the Management Module delivered are read-only : you can't set thresholds or alerts. You can see the metrics only without any actions on them

Now SAP is selling SED = SAP Extended Diagnostic = "Open" Introscope with Management Module with write options, but you have to buy it

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Florian_Cheval

@ FrancoisWalter on Mar 30, 2015 2:19 PM

Hi François,

Yes, everything you wrote is correct, was there any specific question that you had?

Regs,

Florian.

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FrancoisWalter @ Florian_Cheval on Mar 30, 2015 2:45 PM

no, it was just share my experience

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Hiko_Davis

@ FrancoisWalter on Apr 21, 2015 10:17 PM

Actually the current version of SED is 9.5.6.0

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Hiko_Davis

@ dShashiKrishna on Apr 22, 2015 4:35 PM

1) Is SAP APM is Agent based or Agentless/Remote monitoring. ? Agent

2) Could you please give background how APM monitors SAP system. ? SAP has created what is called the SMDAgent that is custom designed to gather metrics from SAP landscape.

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dShashiKrishna @ Hiko_Davis on May 12, 2015 7:02 AM

Thank you Davis for your valuable information. Definitely this helps me to understand first level information.

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dShashiKrishna @ Hiko_Davis on May 12, 2015 10:33 AM

Hi Davis,

Could you please share some pdf(s) about the same, that would be more helpfull to refer.

Thanks In Advance.

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Hiko_Davis

@ dShashiKrishna on May 12, 2015 10:03 PM

You need to get them from the SAP marketplace. It is provided by SAP.

If want information specific to what we can provide from CA Services for augment your SAP landscape, please contact your CA Pre-Sales representative.

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SergioMorales Dec 2, 2011 3:40 AM
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Hi
The latest vesion of Introscope SAP is v9. In regards to the the SAP documentation, in addition to the tandard Introscope documentaiton you should be able to download the one specific for SAP, which is the Webview userguide.
Please find attached a copy.

Regards,
Sergio
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- TieZheng.Sun @ SergioMorales on Dec 2, 2011 4:51 AM
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  From SAP Note 797147, I find the wily download link from service.sap.com. However, I can only find "Latest available release on Service Marketplace is Introscope 8.2". And this note was published at 02.05.2011. So how to get wily for sap v9?
  
  And from CA wily Support, can i get some reference metric for sap?
  
  As I know little for sap, but i still have to do monitor sap. So i am confused with this.
  
  Thanks & Regards,
  Tiezheng
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- dShashiKrishna @ SergioMorales on Mar 27, 2015 12:07 PM
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  Hi Sergio,
  Greetings!
  Hope you are good.
  Here APM we are almost done very well where it included your support and added value.
  
  We knew that CA APM is bundled with SAP.
  
  Now we required small info/data about APM for SAP.
  
  1) Is SAP APM is Agent based or Agentless/Remote monitoring. ?
  2) Could you please give background how APM monitors SAP system. ?
  3) How differently SAP Agents collect metric data from Java/.Net Agents? What all different metrics SAP agent will collect from Java/.Net Agents.?
  4) What all SAP Modules(like ABAP, Security, HANA, etc..) we can monitor using CA APM, do we have any limitations in modules ?
  
  I have searched in APM bookshelf but unfortunately i could not found any.
  And also please share some documents and CA guides to know about SAP APM.
  
  Many Thanks in Advance.
  
  Regards,
  ShashiKrishna.
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  - FrancoisWalter @ dShashiKrishna on Mar 30, 2015 2:14 PM
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    I started some work on monitoring SAP with Introscope.
    SAP is providing an embedded Introscope (EM+agents). It is a standalone EM. I tried to connect it to my MOM but my MOM version was greater than the one delivered with SAP. The current version delivered with SAP is 9.1.0.1.
    All the Management Module delivered are read-only : you can't set thresholds or alerts. You can see the metrics only without any actions on them
    Now SAP is selling SED = SAP Extended Diagnostic = "Open" Introscope with Management Module with write options, but you have to buy it
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    - Florian_Cheval @ FrancoisWalter on Mar 30, 2015 2:19 PM
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      Hi François,
      
      Yes, everything you wrote is correct, was there any specific question that you had?
      
      Regs,
      
      Florian.
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      - FrancoisWalter @ Florian_Cheval on Mar 30, 2015 2:45 PM
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        no, it was just share my experience
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    - Hiko_Davis @ FrancoisWalter on Apr 21, 2015 10:17 PM
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      Actually the current version of SED is 9.5.6.0
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  - Hiko_Davis @ dShashiKrishna on Apr 22, 2015 4:35 PM
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    1) Is SAP APM is Agent based or Agentless/Remote monitoring. ? Agent
    2) Could you please give background how APM monitors SAP system. ? SAP has created what is called the SMDAgent that is custom designed to gather metrics from SAP landscape.
    3) How differently SAP Agents collect metric data from Java/.Net Agents? What all different metrics SAP agent will collect from Java/.Net Agents.? SED allows you create custom PBDs and other instrumentation just like regular APM. This is not possible if you only use RTV.
    4) What all SAP Modules(like ABAP, Security, HANA, etc..) we can monitor using CA APM, do we have any limitations in modules ? ABAP monitoring can be purchased directly from CA, which allows you to monitor the T-codes. We do not currently support monitoring for HANA or other SAP modules. If this is something you're interested in, please contact your CA account manager or pre-sales rep about engaging CA Services.
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    - dShashiKrishna @ Hiko_Davis on May 12, 2015 7:02 AM
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      Thank you Davis for your valuable information. Definitely this helps me to understand first level information.
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    - dShashiKrishna @ Hiko_Davis on May 12, 2015 10:33 AM
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      Hi Davis,
      Could you please share some pdf(s) about the same, that would be more helpfull to refer.
      
      Thanks In Advance.
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      - Hiko_Davis @ dShashiKrishna on May 12, 2015 10:03 PM
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        You need to get them from the SAP marketplace. It is provided by SAP.
        
        If want information specific to what we can provide from CA Services for augment your SAP landscape, please contact your CA Pre-Sales representative.
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