IDMS

  • 1.  U4083 abends after time change

    Posted Mar 15, 2012 12:52 PM
    Two IDMS batch jobs that were running during the spring time change abended at step completion (later) with U4083-15.
    This is a COBOL LE abend. Since we can’t find any non-IDMS batch jobs that were running at that time, some factions want to consider this an IDMS problem, and I can’t prove otherwise.

    Has anyone else experienced this problem with batch running during the time change, either IDMS or non-IDMS?


  • 2.  RE: U4083 abends after time change

    Posted Mar 16, 2012 11:05 PM
     Kay,  were the abends accompanied by any IDMS or other non-IDMS error messages ? 

    Harold Govan


  • 3.  RE: U4083 abends after time change

    Posted Mar 16, 2012 11:08 PM
    We received a similar abend of an IDMS update job that was running during the time change. In our case, it was 4083-04, but I think that abend was secondary. The first sign of trouble was the following:

    [color=#0b02fa]CEE0374C CONDITION=CEE3204S TOKEN=00030C84 59C3C5C5 00000000 254
    WHILE RUNNING PROGRAM RHDCOMVS
    AT THE TIME OF INTERRUPT
    PSW 478D0E00 80064482
    GPR 0-3 FFFFCA5B 00000000 8000727C 8006447C
    GPR 4-7 00000000 1AD24BD0 002E364B 9D490CF2
    GPR 8-B 9AD19720 00080B00 00077068 000813C0
    GPR C-F 000643D8 00081400 00FDB628 000643D8
    CAPC098E INTERNAL ERROR. ABEND REPORTER IN CONTROL.
    [color]
    Anyone else experience anything similar?

    Tom Lindh


  • 4.  RE: U4083 abends after time change

    Posted Mar 16, 2012 11:10 PM
    Hey, we got that too. I missed the original abend when I looked at it before.

    Kay Rozeboom


  • 5.  RE: U4083 abends after time change

    Posted Mar 16, 2012 11:10 PM
    Tom,

    Did you have any non-IDMS jobs running at the time? If yes, did they have a similar problem?

    Kay Rozeboom


  • 6.  RE: U4083 abends after time change

    Posted Mar 19, 2012 05:29 PM
    [color=#0e05fc](Please note. If you believe you have a different situation or problem. Please feel free to open an IDMS issue at SUPPORT.CA.COM and we will be happy to look further into this for you).[color]

    Kay and I have been trading emails on the 4083 abend. She asked me to post this to the list for her.


    [color=#0e05fc]Hi Kay,

    It has just been brought to my attention that this is documented in the following PIB. If LE Cobol is used the 4083 abend is possible in place of the S0C4.

    APAR #: QI52458
    Product: IDMS Release: 16.0 Solution #: 42 Type:
    OS: Group: CAIDMS GBL SUP 1
    Title: R16, R17, & V18 SEASONAL TIME CHANGE PROCEDURES

    ****************** VERSION 0 EFFECTIVE: FEB 23 2012 15:07 ***********
    Procedures for handling IDMS components
    when dealing with seasonal time changes.

    ..
    This note added 02/23/2012

    Please see PTF RO30829
    If a z/OS SET CLOCK command is issued while a CA IDMS batch job is
    executing, then the batch job will abend with a S0C4 abend in
    CA IDMS module RHDCOMVS.

    End of note 02/23/2012
    [color]
    John Siraco
    CA Technologies


  • 7.  RE: U4083 abends after time change

    Posted Mar 16, 2012 11:06 PM
    My questions are:

    1) if this only occurs at time change and hasn't recurred - why really spend the effort researching the problem? Just go on, and try to avoid running the job(s) during the next time change.

    2) if really necessary to reproduce, is there a test LPAR that you can simulate the time change to recreate the problem? Make sure that you use run-time options TERMTHDACT(UAIMM) and TRAP(ON,NOSPIE). From the description is Quick Reference, the return code 15 means that the save area blocks were no longer intact - perhaps content supervision has a problem with time changes (don't know for sure, it has been a long time since I messed around with the mainframe, even longer with OS control blocks!). But bottom line, it seems to me to be hard to blame on IDMS, seems more like an OS and/or LE issue to me.

    Dan Miley


  • 8.  RE: U4083 abends after time change

    Posted Mar 19, 2012 08:33 AM
    Does the program issue
    the HourGlass SVC? And if so is IBM apar APAR OA38821 applied?


  • 9.  RE: U4083 abends after time change

    Posted Mar 21, 2012 08:51 AM
    No, we do not have HourGlass installed.