Hi Ed,
Sorry for the delay in my response – we have been down for the count here since last Monday when the hurricane rolled through. With that, here are my responses to your questions:
1. We do not recommend pdm backup and pdm restore as a general rule as we have noted problems with it in the past. We have had a lot more successful experience in using sql backup and sql restore to copy the database to a new system. Additionally the sql backup and sql restore takes a lot less time than the pdm backup and pdm restore – which does a complete extract on the mdb which can take an extended period of time.
2. Yes, you should definitely patch the swing system to the same as your prod. This will ensure that you have a good replica to start from and will also help to mitigate the risk of any unknowns along the way. It can definitely interfere with testing if you do not have the same patch level – same goes for customizations ;)
3. I don’t recommend this as you will not have a complete replica of your production system on the swing environment. This will now allow you to get proper timings as well as get a really good idea of how your production system will migrate. You want to compare apples to apples here, which will mitigate the most risk of failure in a migration.
I hope this helps – let us know,
Thanks,
Jon Israel
Principal Support Engineer
CA Technologies
(631) 342-2231
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Subject: [Tuesday's Tips] RE: CA Tuesday Tip - The New and Improved "Swing Box" Migration Method
EdMosqueda:
We have a few questions about the use of the Swing Box method:
1. When replicating the production environment to the Swing Box server, is it possible to use PDM_BACKUP and PDM_RESTORE to replicate the production configuration from a Windows 2003 Server to the new Swing Box Windows 2008 Server? Could this be done instead of reinstalling the 12.5 media on the Swing Box Server?
Ever since r11.x, the backup and restore utilities don't do a 100% data restore on the target system. Having used this same method a few times, I always prefer doing straight MDB restores on the swing box.
EdMosqueda:
2. If we must install the 12.5 media on the Swing Box Server, would we also need to patch the server to the same level as the current productions server? Might this interfere with testing if we don’t use the current production configuration as the baseline?
That's not entirely necessary, unless there are obvious reasons the patches SW is installed on production (i.e. .Net versions, Office, etc).
EdMosqueda:
3. Our Production Database is rather large, and we don’t necessarily want to copy the all of the production data to the Swing Box Server as this will eventually become our new Development Server. Is it possible to replicate the data from the development server to the Swing Box Server?
If - customization wise - the Dev is identical to the Prod, then you could also replicate from Dev to the Swing Box. One advantage of using the Prod system is that you'll get more realistic timing on the upgrade step itself, this could help with the 'real' migration of the Prod system when you go live and do the upgrade.
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