Clarity

Hi guys,

CA Clarity PPM 12.1.2 / MSP 2010 32 bits

We have some projects with Calc Method sett = "Manual"

On Clarity % complete attribute is different % complete MSP
In Clarity % complete attribute is updated manually or automatic?, I understand that when method calc is duration or effort exist a job %complete that update the % complete of project

1 - Using calc method = Manual we should update % complete manually?

Thanks for all,
Regards

Juan

I think I've clarified my question

Note: If you are using CA Clarity PPM with Microsoft Project or if your
company uses an external job to calculate % Complete, select manual as the
% complete calculation method.
Values:
- Manual. Use this method if you want to enter the percent complete for the
project, summary, and detail tasks manually. The % Complete field is on the
task properties page.

What do you think? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

I think you are right, if the company have an external (non Clarity) job to calculate % complete, however you can have a process in Clarity to calculate the % complete.

Hope this helps,

regards,

Erick

'This is very strange. CA user guide tell us that if we use some external tool, like MS Project, we should use % complete calculation as "Manual".
I've setted this option as Manual, expecting that clarity would use the MS. Project % complete values. But the behavior that I could see was that the project % complete field hasn't been loaded with the MS Project values.
The % complete value for the tasks was the same of MS Project.
Is this an error on clarity user guide? It appears for me that is not a good option choose the Manual option with MSP.

ronaldorezende-tecban wrote:

'This is very strange. CA user guide tell us that if we use some external tool, like MS Project, we should use % complete calculation as "Manual".
I've setted this option as Manual, expecting that clarity would use the MS. Project % complete values. But the behavior that I could see was that the project % complete field hasn't been loaded with the MS Project values.
The % complete value for the tasks was the same of MS Project.
Is this an error on clarity user guide? It appears for me that is not a good option choose the Manual option with MSP.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Could you possibly let me know what exact guide you are referencing here, and other information such as page number,etc. And, a screen shot is also very helpful! -_- The more information we have the better.

I will then take this issue back to the team for investigation.

Hi,
take a look atthe Project Management User Guide

% Complete Calculation Method

Specifies the method for calculating the percent complete value for the project and tasks.

Values:

Manual. Use this method to enter the percent complete for the project, summary, and detail tasks manually. Also, select this calculation method If you are using CA Clarity PPM with Microsoft Project, or if you are using an external job to calculate % Complete. The % Complete field appears on the task properties page.
Duration. Use this method to track percent complete based on duration. The duration is a measure of the total span of active working time for a task: from start to the finish date of a task. In this method, enter the % complete for the detail tasks. The % complete for summary tasks is automatically calculated based on the following formula:
Summary Task % Complete = Total Detail Task Duration Complete / Total Detail Task Duration
Effort. Use this method to calculate the % complete for summary and detail tasks, automatically, based on the work units completed by resource assignments. If you assign a non-labor resource to a task, the effort and actuals for that resource are ignored in the calculation. The calculations are based on the following formulas.
Summary Task % Complete = Sum of Detail Task resource assignment Actuals / Sum of Detail Task resource assignment Effort
Detail Task % Complete = Sum of resource assignment Actuals / Sum of resource assignment Effort
Default: Manual

ronaldorezende-tecban wrote:

Hi,
take a look atthe Project Management User Guide

% Complete Calculation Method

Specifies the method for calculating the percent complete value for the project and tasks.

Values:

Manual. Use this method to enter the percent complete for the project, summary, and detail tasks manually. Also, select this calculation method If you are using CA Clarity PPM with Microsoft Project, or if you are using an external job to calculate % Complete. The % Complete field appears on the task properties page.
Duration. Use this method to track percent complete based on duration. The duration is a measure of the total span of active working time for a task: from start to the finish date of a task. In this method, enter the % complete for the detail tasks. The % complete for summary tasks is automatically calculated based on the following formula:
Summary Task % Complete = Total Detail Task Duration Complete / Total Detail Task Duration
Effort. Use this method to calculate the % complete for summary and detail tasks, automatically, based on the work units completed by resource assignments. If you assign a non-labor resource to a task, the effort and actuals for that resource are ignored in the calculation. The calculations are based on the following formulas.
Summary Task % Complete = Sum of Detail Task resource assignment Actuals / Sum of Detail Task resource assignment Effort
Detail Task % Complete = Sum of resource assignment Actuals / Sum of resource assignment Effort
Default: Manual

Thank you, I will take this back to my team.

ronaldorezende-tecban wrote:

Hi,
take a look atthe Project Management User Guide

% Complete Calculation Method

Specifies the method for calculating the percent complete value for the project and tasks.

Values:

Manual. Use this method to enter the percent complete for the project, summary, and detail tasks manually. Also, select this calculation method If you are using CA Clarity PPM with Microsoft Project, or if you are using an external job to calculate % Complete. The % Complete field appears on the task properties page.
Duration. Use this method to track percent complete based on duration. The duration is a measure of the total span of active working time for a task: from start to the finish date of a task. In this method, enter the % complete for the detail tasks. The % complete for summary tasks is automatically calculated based on the following formula:
Summary Task % Complete = Total Detail Task Duration Complete / Total Detail Task Duration
Effort. Use this method to calculate the % complete for summary and detail tasks, automatically, based on the work units completed by resource assignments. If you assign a non-labor resource to a task, the effort and actuals for that resource are ignored in the calculation. The calculations are based on the following formulas.
Summary Task % Complete = Sum of Detail Task resource assignment Actuals / Sum of Detail Task resource assignment Effort
Detail Task % Complete = Sum of resource assignment Actuals / Sum of resource assignment Effort
Default: Manual

Hi,

Can you please open a support issue explaining the product behavior that your are experiencing? Once the issue is tracked and addressed, we will know if an update is needed to the current documentation or not.

Thanks,

Sarmistha

How can I open this issue? Everyone can open issues or are there some necessary permission for this?

Hello Ronaldo,

Login in our Support site and then in the left menu should appears 'open an issue' in this point your account must be associated a site ID of the company ...

You can to create this issue with all details

Thank you
Nico

In my opinion this isn't strange ... in other words if your calculation method is set to manual, you need to use MSP as Scheduler. If your method is different (effort / duration) use OWB with Update % Complete Job

MSP will manage the Gantt chart (there are different formula), therefore you need to update manually from Clarity

Regards

It doesn't make sense for me. If I use MS Project, It must get the %complete determined in MS Project.
It's very strange to have a different value in project % complete and in the MS Project.